Preliminary Feedback about Mathcad Prime 2.0

After speaking with Jakov Kucan about customer input and the alpha testers, I got in touch with a few of these testers to hear some of their preliminary feedback about Mathcad Prime 2.0. I heard from two Design Engineers- Gnouni Yengoian and Mike Armstrong, a Senior Technology Engineer- Bert Beirinckx, a Professor Emeritus- Clyde Metz, and a current professor- Michael Thackston. I asked them about the difference and improvements of Mathcad Prime 2.0 compared to other past versions. Here is what they said:

The users said the major difference between Mathcad Prime 2.0 and older versions was the layout/ interface and the Excel component. Metz said, “The major change… is the use of the banner instead of dropdown menus… the banner is quicker and, in my opinion, organized better. I can spot an icon much faster than trying to interpret phrases on the dropdown menu.” Yengoian believed, “The ability to utilize Microsoft Excel is by far the most useful improvement.”

Mathcad Prime 2.0 user feedback

In addition to this, Beirinckx also said “Performance has improved dramatically after the Alpha-version, and Prime 2.0 is starting to look like something an experienced Mathcad user can work with.”

Some of the features the users were most excited to share about Mathcad Prime 2.0, that they couldn’t do before, were “three-dimensional (surface) graphing ability of data and the matrix representation of the data tables.  Also… the additional methods for solving differential equations.” Another said, “Utilizing hidden areas and using various graphs and images from other documents without the risk of corrupting the Mathcad file.”

Still another user stated, “I would consider mixed unit arrays the most improved feature. I have been limited over the years when dealing with large amounts of data due to the exclusion of MDA’s after Mathcad 11. I have also found the new Excel component is a massive improvement on previous versions.” With this variety in favorites, it is clear Mathcad Prime 2.0 has a lot to offer the user.

Along with having exciting new features, Mathcad Prime 2.0 has proved to be a time saver. One user said “Because the content in a Mathcad worksheet (old or new) appears very similar to what appears in textbooks… it is easy to read and correct errors… It’s easy to prepare a worksheet.  Also, being able to look at various Mathcad electronic books and being able to copy/paste content from these books to the worksheet definitely helps in creating a worksheet. Anything that makes things easier to enter or read is a time saver.”

Yengoian agreed for different reasons saying, “The standardized calculation worksheets have cut our engineering hours by half, if not more. We expect to further improve our efficiency, as future revisions allow us to standardize more aspects of our work.”

Mathcad Prime 2.0 user feedback

Additionally Thackston said, “The overall look of a Prime worksheet is a little bit nicer; it looks a bit more polished. I can use fully-justified text.  That may sound like an odd thing to mention for this type of “tool”, but something that I emphasize, is that Mathcad is a really good document-creating tool.  The appearance, as well as the content, of a document can be important.” Another user said, “New users will be very impressed by Mathcad Prime 2.0… The layout is clear and the formatting of documents has improved from Prime 1.0.”

Download a 30-day free trial of Mathcad Prime 2.0 and voice your opinion about Mathcad Prime 2.0 or hear about other users’ experiences? Start a discussion on PlanetPTC Community!

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24 Responses to Preliminary Feedback about Mathcad Prime 2.0

  1. Ziyad Saeed says:

    ok now to the Mathcad Prime 3.0 series feature roadmap :)

  2. Andrew Reid says:

    I have been pleading for years for the temperature units to be fixed ant at last!!! Now, my next gripe is vectors and arrays. I would like Mathcad to have the capability of a HP calculator when it comes to handling vectors. Even on my mobile phone I can manipulate vectors from different coodinate systems.

  3. Mona Zeftel says:

    Andrew,

    What is the temperature unit issue you need to be fixed? We made them work several versions ago, and they work the same in Mathcad Prime as well.

    Can you post examples of what is not working the way you expect in the Mathcad Community pages, so we can see images. http://communities.ptc.com/community/mathcad

    Also I’m not clear on what you want for vectors, so some images or examples would be helpful.

    Thanks,

    Mona

  4. Kanny says:

    What does Mathcad Prime 2.0 does not have that Mathcad 15 have?. That is, what is lacking in M.Prime 2.0 compared to Mathcad 15?

  5. VirgiP says:

    One question.
    For Prime 3 you will change the ugly ribbon+icons found in Prime 2 with a high quality one (like it is, for example, Office 2010)?
    Thanks

  6. Dan says:

    In older versions of Mathcad, it was very convenient to format results by clicking on the result. Why doesn’t Mathcad Prime have this feature? Formatting with the ribbon is inconvenient at best and I have yet to figure out how to highlight or put a box around a result.

    • Steve Deshayes says:

      I agree. Formatting is still much better in Mathcad 15 than in Prime 2.0. and I can’t figure out how to highlight a result either – that feature is missing. As well, the Quicksheets and E-books were much better then the current Help and Tutorials. I still use Mathcad 15 more than Prime 2, its still mypreferred tool regardless of other Prime 2 features (i.e. Excel).

      • Mona Zeftel says:

        Many users use Mathcad 15 as well as Mathcad Prime 2.0. We are implementing many document, text, and math formatting features for an upcoming release.

        The Quicksheets from Mathcad 15 have been incorporated into Help Examples. You can copy the entire example or parts of it to your Mathcad Prime worksheet.

        Thanks for your feedback,

        Mona

      • Scott Archibald says:

        I loaded Prime 1.0 and quickly unloaded because of the E-books. I have 15 of them I use. Is there a translation that can bring them across. Otherwise I am stuck at Mathcad 15. I always thought the people stuck in PROE wildfire were backwards, I never thought I would be one of those people. I have been discouraged with your process.

      • Mona Zeftel says:

        Hi Scott,
        Did you install Mathcad Prime 2.0? It has more features that Mathcad Prime 1.0.There is a conversion utility in Mathcad Prime that you can use to batch convert your E-book files. However, we do not yet have an E-book feature in Mathcad Prime, so you would have to read the worksheets individually.

        Mona

      • Scott Archibald says:

        Thanks Mona I will try that.

        Regards,
        Scott

  7. mzeftel says:

    Dan,
    We plan to add these features in a future release of Mathcad Prime.

    Mona

  8. Rick says:

    I still need the prefix and postfix operators and more than 50000 graph points. Can’t convert my many v15 worksheets until then!

    • Mona Zeftel says:

      Hi Rick,

      We plan to expand the number of data points than can be plotted for Mathcad Prime 3.0.
      Prefix and postfix operators are planned for a later release, at this time.

      Mona

  9. Mona Zeftel says:

    Rick,

    We plan to greatly increase the number of points that can be plotted for Mathcad Prime 3.0. Prefix and postfix operators are on the road map for Mathcad Prime, but are not schedule for Mathcad Prime 3.0.

    Regards,

    Mona

    • Rick says:

      You mean I won’t be able to use Prime 3.0 either? That is simply unbelievable!! Support for v15 beyond 3.0 sure better be there and free of charge to boot!

    • Martin Basil says:

      Mona, MATHCAD Prime V1, and V2 should never have been released to the market as there is still a lot of product development work and from what you are saying V3 is not ready and should be withheld until it is a worthy successor to V15 which will really work, Prime V1 and V2 don’t work.

  10. Martin Basil says:

    We converted a 30 page MathCAD V15 to MathCAD Prime V2 as initial checks showed it worked reasonably well (unlike Prime V1 which did not work at all!!) and did everything we needed so we thought. WRONG…we could not split long equations over a line at all (split on + or – in V15) and formatting was very buggy finding it very difficult to keep everything within the page. Rubbish really so we have gone back to V15 have done some very expensive aborted work.

    DO NOT use Prime until it is fixed, hopefully Prime V3 will do it, but suspect not. It will take several more versions before all the V15 features are are included.

    Interesting that everything I do in V15 now could be done in V3 way back in the 90’s. I will have to dust it off and see if it still works on Windowes V7.

  11. anobile137 says:

    MathCAD is an important tool for performing science and engineering calculations and documenting in a readable form for distribution. Looks like Prime 2 has attempted to make some improvements. Impression is that while some improvements were made, a major step back was taken for some reason in many capabilities.

    Getting rid of pull down menus had to be done to stay current with every other windows program, but as commenter above suggested, they need to be made a little more attractive. The clipboard icon is only on two tabs of the banner, so if you are on another tab and you need this, you have to get to the Math or Document tab. This adds an additional click of the mouse. When reducing the screen size the clipboard icon gets smaller and has to be pulled down to get to copy or paste, so if you are on another tab and your screen size is reduced, it takes three clicks of the mouse to copy something, and then two more clicks to paste it. That’s right, five clicks to copy and paste something. This would not be so bad if you could right click on variables in equations to copy them, but you can’t do that. This all seems very primitive.

    In working on a 22 page document, for some reason when I edit the text on the first, second or third pages of the document, the text on page 4 skips to the next page. As I continue to edit it keeps skipping. You eventually realize that your text on page 4 has skipped 10 pages. Then you have to go and bring it back.

    With MathCAD 15 and earlier, when typing a formula, you can get a subscript by a quick pinky on the period key. Now it takes two keystrokes (CTRL -), or you can grab your mouse and navigate the tabs, and it takes up to three clicks to get the subscript.

    Graphs seem to be a disaster. Can’t make axis labels anymore as part of the graph. You can add separate text, but you can’t turn it vertical for an axis label. There does not appear to be a legend anymore. Also can’t make a grid. Seems the graphing is primitive. Much nicer graphs can be made in excel. What is the problem with making graphs? Other programs for doing these kind of things have been around for 20 years.

    Sometimes when I edit a graph it has a red border around it that won’t seem to go away. When I cut and paste the graph the red border goes away.

    Because of having to use individual text blocks for creating axis labels and other labels on graphs, when you move these around sometimes you can grab the graph and not everything comes with it. Then you gotta go and hunt for it.

    Speaking of hunting, I cannot find a find feature. It looks like you can no longer search for something in the document. I found myself turning the document into a pdf and then searching the pdf. MathCAD 15 had a find feature.

    MathCAD 15 had a feature for aligning text regions in the document. If I wanted all of my formulas to be lined up I could easily do this with MathCAD 15. There appears to be no more align feature.

    The text block seems to be a better way for generating aligned paragraphs. Documents do look better. But if you have a document with text blocks, formulas, graphs, you still find yourself taking a large amount of time moving things around to make it look like a document. It needs to be set up so it flows better.

    Text sometimes shows up cut off on the bottom of a page and the bottom part of it ends up on top of the next page. Seems like the text editor is primitive.

    Can’t make a subscript or superscript in the text. MathCAD 15 could do this. Word processors for making subscripts in the text have been around for at least 20 years. What’s up with that?

    Overall some good improvements have been made, but I am somewhat shocked by how primitive many things still are. Why have so many things available in MathCAD 15 been eliminated.

    An upgrade is needed VERY SOON!

    • Jakov Kucan says:

      Yes, we could not get everything in version Prime 2.0 and we appreciate the comments. Prime 2.0 M010 (shipped in October 2012) is a bug fix release. We are also working on version Prime 3.0 that should be available towards the end of Spring 2013.

      Some of the items you are listing look like bugs, and we’ll take a closer look at these.

      Find: you can search the document for any string (occurring in either text or equations). The ‘find box’ is at the bottom of the window.

      Alignment: The grid is the primary alignment tool. Use the grid to align regions. We are planning on adding more alignment tools down the road.

      Graphs: your criticism is a bit harsh, but we get the point. Improvements are on the roadmap.

      Thanks for the feedback.

  12. Martin Basil says:

    We tried to migrate a project from MathCAD V15 M010 to Prime V2 and eventually got it imported but there were so many features that had not been implemented it was unusable the main one not be able to split an equation across multiple line which made it useless. We also tried building form scratch and found it crashed a lot. Had you IT onto who siad it ran but don’t thinkl they did any real work. This product should never have been released. I was hoping Prime would correct the numeous V15 problems but would was glad to return to it. Spent over two weeks doing this at a cost of over £3,000 all aborted work which set our project back. Thanks PTC!!!

  13. Martin Basil says:

    I have been using MathCAD since V3, I think around 1992 and can honestly say that that version did everything and was less buggy than V15, every new version of MathCAD has introduced. I will try running V3 see if it still runs and let you know.

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